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Many Americans never really get to experience, firsthand, what foreigners think about our culture. But you have many times. Have you encountered any misconceptions others have about us?
Many. The reality of life on Earth is we have a lot of different cultures, and we don’t always get each other. When I lived in England as a child, many of my classmates thought Americans all drove cars as big as Delaware and had high-speed police chases through our communities every night. It was 1977, and “Starsky and Hutch” was one of the most popular TV shows there.
As a teenager in Norway, I encountered other stereotypes – that America was a dangerous place, and that we were all either very rich or very poor. Again, the reason for these misconceptions, I think, is that television shows extreme sides of our culture. These shows may be entertaining for us, but different cultures might take them too literally.
I’ve also encountered political stereotypes, which have shifted in the last decade. I was at a punk rock concert in Bergen, Norway, a few years back. Between songs, the lead singer started ranting about how stupid Americans were for voting for George W. Bush, “not once but twice.” I don’t think she was expecting a Norwegian-speaking liberal American in the audience, and she was a bit bewildered when I yelled from the audience that that we didn’t all vote for him. (But hey, at a punk show, it is culturally appropriate to yell at the band.) I went up to her later and apologized for interrupting, and she apologized to me for stereotyping an entire nation based on its elected officials.
Have there been times when you realized you had improperly stereotyped other cultures as well?
Absolutely. It’s something we all do, and on some level, I would argue that is natural and okay, as long as you also challenge your beliefs and really get to know people. If we travel in foreign places, we’re going to have knee-jerk reactions to things we don’t understand. The trick is allowing time to question our initial negative reactions.
In Globejotting, my book about how to write more meaningful and exciting travel diaries, I talk about how journaling about your expectations before you leave on a trip makes for interesting contrasts once you arrive.
When I teach this idea, people sometimes suggest it’s wrong to travel with preconceptions. But, come on! We travel to places because we have a sense of what they will be like. If we didn’t have some sense of what a place was like, why would we go there in the first place? But usually, there’s at least a subtle difference when we arrive between our expectations and reality.
Do you keep in touch with people you’ve met in other countries?
It’s tricky, but I try. I have a lot of friends in a lot of places. Keeping in touch with all of them on a steady basis just isn’t practical. It could be my full-time job if I were independently wealthy. But the flip side to that is that I have people in many parts of the world who I consider close friends, even if I might only see them once every few years, and when we do get together, it feels as if little time has passed.
How many languages do you speak (or sort of speak)?
Hmmm… well, for starters, I sort of speak English. It’s my native language. I am also fluent in Norwegian, which is very similar to Swedish and Danish, so I understand those as well.
I speak functional, albeit broken, French; enough German and Italian to fool people into thinking I understand them, and a few phrases in a lot of other tongues. Basically, I’m a language nerd, and I try to pick up some of the language wherever I go. But none of this is as impressive as some people make it out to be. Once you’ve got one or two foreign languages down, something clicks in your brain that makes it easier to learn additional languages.
Wow, Dave I am impressed! Most Americans do not speak numerous languages like that. Why do you suppose that is?
I wish we would embrace the concept of teaching foreign languages in elementary schools more than we do. I don’t care whether we teach Spanish or Japanese, Icelandic or Xhosa. Once you go through the process of learning a second language, you understand the thought process involved in communicating in a foreign tongue. So when you then meet people who are struggling to communicate in English, you understand what they need from you – slower speech, clear enunciation, simpler words, etc. You become more effective at communicating in English with non-native speakers.
Americans tend to be perfectionists. That makes some people afraid to attempt other languages because we’re afraid we might say something “wrong.” But you know what? People in other countries don’t think poorly of us if we speak their language badly. They think poorly of us if we don’t try, and always expect them to communicate on our terms.
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